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sakawaki
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Post Rating Good or Bad
on: February 11, 2017, 05:25
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Ian I'd like for you to remove the restrictions for different factions not being able to rate other factions. It's unnecessary and it would make the rating system much for more successful.

The reason why it will be more successful would simply be because that will allow "Players" rate other "Players". In some situations, since a faction cannot rate another faction, "Players" can avoid having a bad reputation and losing privileges just by being apart of a different faction.

Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never harm me.

Fiufsciak
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Post Re: Rating Good or Bad
on: February 11, 2017, 08:27
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It won't work, many people would /ratebad you for being killed even when they'd be from different Faction. It could also lead to threatening like 'you leave the dungeon this instant or I'll rate you'. Sounds ridiculous but players have no choice to team up with another Faction so why'd they allow to steal their exp? And as far as I know PvP between opposite Faction is allowed with no punishments.

/ratenice is different story though. I could agree with it only for rating others nice.

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sakawaki
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Post Re: Rating Good or Bad
on: February 11, 2017, 18:01
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Quote from Fiufsciak on February 11, 2017, 08:27
It won't work, many people would /ratebad you for being killed even when they'd be from different Faction. It could also lead to threatening like 'you leave the dungeon this instant or I'll rate you'. Sounds ridiculous but players have no choice to team up with another Faction so why'd they allow to steal their exp? And as far as I know PvP between opposite Faction is allowed with no punishments.

/ratenice is different story though. I could agree with it only for rating others nice.

That is absolutely ridiculous, if you didn't know players can only rate other players when they're above level 5 which removes the rate botting that use to happen (with the restrictions applied). Situations as being rated unfairly still happen even with the restrictions, that is just called abuse of the rating system which is always being checked by Ian. When ever a player has a very high amount of ratings that are negative and positive. Rating

Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never harm me.

Fiufsciak
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Post Re: Rating Good or Bad
on: February 11, 2017, 18:59
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Yeah, the example might have been a bit exaggerated. Which doesn't change the fact that we'll give players more room to abuse the system. You already have said it is being abused so why make it even easier to abuse? I'm aware of 5 lvl restriction and even find it too low since getting it is a matter of 1-2 minutes. There are quite a few players who only help their own faction often combined with reluctance towards opposite ones. And there's nothing wrong with that, not only are the players divided purposely to compete but also to bond with their own kind. Now how is it possible that competing players are going to rate their opponents fairly in these conditions? Simple 'I won't help you, ask your Faction' can be a trigger to rate one bad. Currently it could be even plausible since we have also many social players who can negate the abusive effect. But we can't forget that this game aspires to be a true MMO with thousands of active people and we won't be able to count on others' honesty since WinterSun's playerbase is a psychical minority. The more players come, the more brutal and unfair the community will be. Even if that's not going to happen - let's not help those kinds of players.

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